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on all things military, what was your -- what was your reaction to the nomination of chuck hagel? this comes, of course, against the back drop of susan rice and the cratering of her nomination. >> sure. the first thing that happened was this enormous and i think pretty unjustified republican reaction against him because if you look at chuck hagel on paper, he is the perfect gop candidate. you know, combat veteran, businessman, earned millions of dollars in the private sector, very successful washington career. was an organizer for ronald reagan. as senator, supported missile defense, defense increases, don't ask don't tell. i mean, right down the line very sort of doctrine supporter of defense. i was pretty shocked to see this huge outcry against him, and i think it goes back to things other than chuck hagel. >> yeah. just maybe. karen, lindsey graham saying this is an in your face nomination. he would be the most antagonistic secretary of defense. sharp words, which probably p r portends something more than just policy disagreements. >> true, although at this point lindsey grah
for march. president obama nominated former nebraska republican chuck hagel to head up the defense department and john brennan to take over at the cia. hamid karzai is coming to washington later this week, the headlines this morning about president obama's foreign policy agenda for 2013 -- we want to hear from you -- what are the challenges in 2013 on the foreign-policy front? the numbers are on your screen. send us a tweet or post your comments on facebook. also send us an e-mail. we are getting your reaction today to the nominations put out by the white house yesterday. president obama had a news conference to put forth chuck hegel as well as the john brennan. to head the cia. also, there are the headlines in the newspapers of syria, iran, peace in the middle east, etc so we want to get your take -- what to you think of foreign policy issues in 2013? here is some comments on our facebook page -- what is your take on this? we will get to your comments in a minute. the front page of "the washington post "- here is the front page of the huffington post this morning -- these are all
topics facing chuck hagel, if he is confirmed as defense secretary, is how to bind down the war in afghanistan. that's also the key issue today between president obama and hamid karzai in their meetings. despite his request for a large american residual force after 2014, karzai recently told nbc's atia that afghan troops are ready to take over. >> on the question of the readiness, the preparedness of the afghan security forces, they are quite ready. i can say with confidence to handle the security of the country, the trust of this country and to receive the full transition to them in 2014, rather, in 2013 and to have the departure of the foreign forces from afghanistan completed in 2014. zoom a strong advocate for chuck hagel for the pentagon job. general, welcome. thank you very much. >> nice to be with you. thank you. >> tell me why you think chuck hagel is the right person for this job despite all the controversy that has been raised about what he said about israel in the past and iran in the past, criticisms of some of his other statements certainly the statements about gay
about the direction of u.s. foreign policy in the wake of former republican senator chuck hagel's nomination as the next secretary of defense. mr. hagel currently serve as the co-chair of president obama's intelligence advisory board and many critics are worried saying that a number of hagel's past comments, including iran, cuba and israel have been completely at odds with u.s. interests. the congresswoman, the chairperson of the house foreign affairs committee and joins us now. >> thank you. >> kelly: i looked at a concerns you and your colleagues have about the nomination of former republican senator chuck hagel to be the new secretary of defense. for example, you have concerns, i understand about the statements he's made in the past on iran, israel, cuba and how he reportedly would like to even cut military spending and perhaps hallow out the fort. and what can this nominee do to ease your concerns as well as those of your republican colleagues? >> well, i think that people should be judged by their past actions and when i was the chair of affairs and now middle east and subc
republican senator chuck hagel to be the next secretary of defense. >> our sources are telling us that is supposed to be in the next few days. the former republican lawmaker, the former nebraska senator chuck hagel has been a long-time friend of the president. when the president was senator travelled together to iraq and afghanistan. but there is already heavy opposition to the selection of chuck hagel if it is to happen, if he is to be nominated, most of it from within his republican party because he was fiercely against the troop surge led by george w. bush and a lot of opposition for comments he made dating back about seven or eight years ago when he referred to the jewish lobby as opposed to the pro israel lobby. senator lindsey graham described this as if it happens to be an in your face nomination. >> we will check back with you later. >>> let's get back to the issue of raising the nation's debt limit. lindsey graham pretty much stated the republican position today. >> if you raise the debt ceiling by a dollar you should cut spending by a dollar that is the way to go forward
criticized some of the past controversial comments and chuck hagel is a republican who are against him and lindsay graham has expressed some concern, but senator chuck schumer, a democrat might be key in getting him confirmed and he's the third ranking senator. so a lot of people will be looking to him. he is on the fence right now. a lot of people will be looking to him to see where he stands and whether he does, in fact, give hagel a thumbs up. that could have a big impact. >> kristen welker, thanks so much. we'll check back with you later in the show. we'll see you soon. >>> the nation's longest-running war topping the agenda this week. the president met with hamid karzai in washington to discuss the pace of withdrawing u.s. troops from afghanistan. joining me now in the msnbc studios aattia abawi and general wesley clark, general clark ran for president in 2004 as a democrat. i want to start with you, because as we were watching what took place with the meeting with president obama and president karzai. we know president karzai does want the troopses out of aftering aftering, but n
brennan. senator lindsey graham accused hagel of weak support for israel and not being naive in calls for negotiation with iran and hezbollah and some liberals criticized hagels' comment 14 years ago about a u.s. di diplt be openly gay. he has since apologized for that comment. president obama says he would be a perfect fit at the pentagon. >> he understands that america stands strongest when we stand as allies and as friends. as a successful businessman he know os even as we make tough fiscal choices we have to do so wisely. >> hagel would be the first enlisted soldier from the vietnam war to serve as secretary of defense. he earned two purple hearts and saved his wounded brother. some republicans are concerned hagel won't be enough of a defender of pentagon spending. >> the fact of the matter is i fear he is going to try to use senator hagel as a foil to pursue this hollowing out of the military that secretary panetta has raised concerns about by the draconian cuts and the is a questions teresa payton. >> hagel would be -- and the sequester. >> not as difficult ahead for jo
in washington. it will make the chuck hagel nomination look like nothing because this guy, jack lew, is in the heart of the obama administration, and he represents barack obama better than basically anybody. not only did they correct when he was white house chief of staff and budget director, but their values are aligned, and so this would be going right at the president who, as jeff sessions knows, deserves to have his own people in the cabinet. this whole presunmps that you object to somebody that's a brilliant nominee just because you don't like his politics, that's not the american way. >> welcome to the republican party of 2013. jonathan alter and jared bernstein, i wish we had more time. thank you. >>> coming up, a memo to mitt romney. the car guy. >> i drive a mustang and a chevy pickup truck. ann drives a couple of cadillacs actually. with the spark cash card from capital one, olaf gets great rewards for his small business! pizza! [ garth ] olaf's small business earns 2% cash back on every purchase, every day! helium delivery. jonathan alter and jared [ pop! ] [ garth ] why
with republicans over his choice to head up the defense department. former republican senator, chuck haggle hagel of nebraska. he questioned israel and his unwillingness to back sanctions. listen to lindsey graham yesterday at the state you of the union. >> this is an in your face nomination by the president to all of us who are supportive of israel. i don't know what his management experience is regarding the pentagon, little if any. i think it's an incredibly controversial choice and it looks like the second term of barack obama is going to be an in your face term. >> foreign affairs correspondent jill dougherty is live from washington this morning. good morning to you. >> good morning. >> opposition to hagel comes from the right and left. can you break down the issues? >> yeah. i think it has to really start with israel because the people who believe that he is not a supporter of israel, in fact, they would question his devotion to anything that would help israel. he, for instance, believes in talking to hamas. he also has come out against iran sanctions by the united states. and so that gets
. the news faces include his nomination of john kerry at state, chuck hagel at defense, jack lew takes over treasury and the president still has to fill the labor secretary post. we're told that some of the first-timers sticking around for the second term include the attorney general, that's eric holder. health secretary cath leaning sebelius and veterans affairs secretary eric shinseki. joining me now is stephen clemens, the editor-at-large at the atlantic. thanks for coming in on a saturday. >> thank you. good to be with you. >> the president's being criticized. we've said this a couple of times because of his new cabinet picks, that they're all white men and it doesn't reflect sort of the makeup of america. is that fair? >> well, i think when you look at a portion of a cabinet, you might be able to make that argument, and i don't think president obama is saying the first four years that he did the diversity thing and now he's moving beyond that to bring in you know a lot of elder white gentleman. i think if chuck hagel with his accomplishments happened to be a gay hispanic man, barack ob
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now back from vacation. more specifically about the former nebraska law maker chuck hagel and the reports he will be picked as early as tomorrow as the secretary of defense choice to replace leon panetta by the president. the white house has been mum, said nothing more specifically about that. there have been a lot of rumblings about this. it would be a contentious nomination battle, as we noted on the sunday morning shows, for a variety of reasons. for one, we heard from senator lindsey graham of south carolina today, who said, among other things, that chuck hagel was, quote, out of the mainstream on foreign policy issues and said, in reference to the potential that he would be picked, for the president it would be what he called an in your face selection, saying that it was just more -- a greater effort to get sort of up against the republicans and to continue the battle lines as they have already been drawn. that goes specifically, lindsey graham's concerns, to some past comments that chuck hagel had made about israel. he referred to the jewish lobby that offended some
the man david the president wants to oversee the withdrawal, the drawdown and withdrawal is chuck hagel to head the pentagon. we talked about him last week. you said then that you thought it would be hard to get him confirmed. do you still -- >> i change my mind. well, i was right then. but reality has changed so i'm also right now. i think he's going to get confirmed. there is republican opposition. some people are saying there it is up to chuck schumer, from new york. he held a key position. the idea that chuck schumer is going to vote against president obama defense secretary seems small. i think he is likely to get it. the one thing that strikes me with these picks, john kerry, chuck hagel, is that like obama, they were among the social senators, they have a same profile, more intellectual, but they were not joe biden going around shaking everybody's hands, from a team of rivals to a team of lone others so they are very similar tempermental. >> woodruff: what does that say and though throw in john brennan. >> i think the chuck hagel thing, 579 cabinet officer notice history of the u
of those as the vice president. but chuck hagel, coal colin powell supposed to be on "meet the press" this sunday. does he have the political power to smooth the waters in washington, d.c.? chuck hagel being seen as a split from the neocon conservative leftovers. >> i do think colin powell lends credibility to the nomination of chuck hagel. but there are key senators like senator chuck schumer that will make a big difference. with regard to senator schumer, i cannot speak more highly than senator schumer. i was seeking the aim accusations when i was running as senator of pennsylvania in 2010. senator schumer called me and came in to philadelphia and met with the jewish literee leaders having understood having been in the military, we would have laid down our lives for the defense of israel. i went to the middle east with senator hagel and heard him talk about having the strength of having america defend israel. my take on end of the day, senator schumer critically will probably do what he did once for america, defend that that is best for national security interests. i think he's goi
a fascinating story regarding charles schumer. it seems that chuck schumer is the key to chuck hagel's failure or success. tell us why. >> that's right. and first we have to do happy friday. >> happy friday. >> happy friday. >> boy, do we need that. >> and this is a surprise. senator schumer has been telling his allies in new york, especially jewish groups, that would be, quote, very hard, very hard for him to support chuck hagel for pentagon head because of his positions on israel the other day. the real canary in the coal mine on the trouble that the hagel nomination has faced was on "meet the press" several weaks ago when senator schumer surprisingly wouldn't commit to supporting him. and usually when the president has a nominee, favorite nominee, a name out there, the number three democrat in the senate, chuck schumer, is going to say sure, i'll support him. he said he's going to listen for the hearings. and that's where he still is. just wednesday at a private breakfast at park avenue winter, one of those fancy restaurants up there, senator schumer was saying that he was very uneasy about
.m. eastern on c-span2. yesterday, president obama nominated chuck hagel as the defense secretary and john brennan as head of the cia. we will hear more on this as well as foriegn policy changes for the u.s. host: is on the phone with us. josh rogan, let's begin with the nomination of chuck hagel. " -- guest: they traveled to iraq together when president obama was just candidate barack obama. they have a similar world via. he has been serving as the -- on the intelligence advisory board code-share. they get along. he is likely to implement his policies. he has a great personal relationship with him. host: what about the confirmation process for the forming the senator -- for the former senator? there has been a vote count out there the right now there are senators that oppose him. guest: i would not trust any vote count. most senators lamont's commit before they have had a chance to properly is that the nomination. what we do know is there are about five senators who promised to vote no on his nomination. they are republicans, which is ironic because when he was in the senate he was a repu
: there are questions surrounding the president's nomination of chuck hagel to be defense secretary. new allegations the nomination was part of a larger attempt to change the future of the u.s. military. what about that question? steve hayes with an answer, next. >> it was clear there was strong bipartisan opposition to chuck hagel and president obama decide he didn't care, he was going to force it through and pick this fight because i think politically he thinks he can pick any fight he wants. ♪ i don't wanna be right [ record scratch ] what?! it's not bad for you. it just tastes that way. [ female announcer ] honey nut cheerios cereal -- heart-healthy, whole grain oats. you can't go wrong loving it. your financial advisor should focus on your long-term goals, not their short-term agenda. [ male announcer ] join the nearly 7 million investors who think like you do. face time and think time make a difference. at edward jones, it's how we make sense of investing. bill: back to the breaking news news of the hour, the number of is at least 50 now, 50 people injured in this docking accident in lower m
confirmation process for chuck hagel. we were talking a lot about this yesterday. also some other nominees as well. but you say the white house is looking forward to these fights. why would that be? >> no, that's exactly right. this is a real window into why the president made this tough choice of chuck hagel. and that is we talked to people around the white house who said that the president wants fights with congress. and there's both a short-term strategy here and a long-term strategy. in the short term, the president wants to take advantage of the fact that he's the only person in these negotiations who's not running for re-election. so he can afford to be tough. he can afford to stand up for what he said. second, simple contempt by the president. these republicans who lost to him so badly in 2012, in his view, just won't take yes for an answer. so there's a little bit of exasperation by the president. but pull back the camera, and you see the bigger strategy, which is looking ahead to the midterm elections in 2014. by picking tough fights with the hill, the president uses his office to
the president has been questioned for nominated chuck hagel for defense secretary, would it have helped the president to take a stronger stance on this issue today? either telling the country the troop count or being open of the fact of, hey, look, we're not on the schedule to announce this and telling the public why. >> no, at the end of the day, you go through your evaluations. i talked to a three-star general who served in afghanistan who made it perfectly clear that these are delicate situations, you're still dealing with a country where we're trying to get the security forces up to par. you also don't just want to just make some kind of announcement without thinking it through. i talked to a senior administration official who said to lead 10,000 troops in afghanistan could cost us $30 billion a year. the president also has to make an economic decision, as well. so, look, if panetta is saying i want it done in weeks and the president is simply saying i'm going to take a few more months, i say take your time because you're dealing with the lives of american troops. >> that's a fair p
that jack lew will be a fight just as chuck hagel will be a fight, just as susan rice was a fight. the second problem for president obama is that so far his chosen bantd doesn't include any sisters, nor does it include any racial diversity. even members of his own party are expressing dismay. new york democrat charlie rangel called the lack of women embarrassing as hell and yesterday chairwoman of the congressional black caucus, marcia fudge wrote a letter urging the president to nominate two members of the cbc. bill, you are a former diverse member of the president's -- >> still diverse. >> yes. you remain diverse, though not sequestered at 1600 pennsylvania avenue, for which we are thankful. i wonder what you make about this contention that he is being too insular, a, in terms of the possibility of group think, people that have been with him forever, and then, b, how much is the diversity problem for him? >> well, i'll start with b. you know, i think that what we're seeing here is more of an optics problem than it is a real problem because by the numbers half of the white house
has been questioned for nominating chuck hagel for defense secretary, a man who was against the surge in afghanistan is four more defense cuts and written about avoiding wars, would it help the president to take a stronger stance on this? >> no. at the end of the day, you go through your evaluations. i talked to a three-star general that served in afghanistan that made it perfectly clear that these are delicate situations. you are still dealing with a country where we are trying to get the security forces up to bar. it could cost us about $30 billion a year. the president has to make an economic decision as well. if panetta is on his way out is saying, i want it done in weeks and the president is simply saying, i am going to take a few more months, i say, take your time, because you are dealing with the lives of american troops. >> that's a fair point. the clock is ticking. the united states says it is going to withdraw in 2014. it is not just delay on troop numbers that had us asking questions today. today, the question gave a reason for the delay. he said, i haven't got recommendati
. there is no limit to your honesty. i am a proud vietnam veteran. i served when chuck hagel and his brother were there. what is it you can see that causes such a rift with the republicans went a democrat chooses a republican such as mr. chuck hagel. he has so much significant qualifications and knowledge of congress. that is the key thing. what: i guess we'll see the objections to a hagel are. i think hagel is a sound choice. i think the president has every right to nominate chuck hagel for this position. some statements he has made in the past need to be aired. my guess is that he will be confirmed by a large margin in the senate. the secretary of defense does not make foreign policy. the secretary of defense plays the primary role of bringing our defense department to bear to the service of the president. most people believe his qualifications are sound. he was a decorated hero, enlisted man in the vietnam war. there never has been an enlisted man like him as secretary of defense. the issues he is going to confront our budgetary issues and how well we can fund the pentagon and how we can cut b
hagel may need those war survivor skills. >> his leadership of our military would be historic. >> this is an in-your-face nomination by the president. >>> two nightmarish incidents are now under investigation. >> fuel leak is always a serious matter. >> what a beautiful woman. >> i think the media has been unfair to him. >> beautiful woman, few ugly plane problems and key cabinet picks like chuck hagel. >> i came to admire his courage, his judgment, his willingness to speak his mind, even if it wasn't popular. >> turns out he's not too popular with some. >> chuck hagel, if confirmed to be secretary of defense, would be the most antagonistic secretary of defense toward the state of israel in our nation's history. >> profoundly wrong on some of the biggest national security threats confronting the united states today. >>> mechanical problems keep rolling in for boeing's 787 dreamliner. >> more like a nightmare. three of boeing's brand new planes suffered a slue of issues. >> fire and leaking fuel. >> error message related to the plane's braking system. >> all these little glitch
that the nomination like chuck hagel, which is fairly controversial, nonetheless is sure to be a winner for him because he's got the power of the presidency at a moment when he feels, you know, it is never going to be more powerful for him and in the rest of the second term. jon: i made that observation the other day because chuck hagel is not popular among some, even in the republican party. so the president gets to look bipartisan by nominating a republican, but it's a republican who doesn't enjoy widespread support or at least unanimous support from members of his own party. >> well, you know, you touched on something among the political pros in washington is much, a point of much conversation. you know he had challenged mitch mcconnell for leadership post while he was in the senate. so mcconnell doesn't have a whole lot of love for him. don't forget, he endorsed john kerry in that nebraska senate race that recently went to a republican. so people don't, of course he was opposed to the war. he opposed the surge in iraq. so the bush administration folks, again they don't have a whole lot of l
that the president's nominees so far have absolutely been spot on. particularly with senator chuck hagel taking over defense department. he did try to get susan rice before senator kerry took it. i think you raised a legitimate point as he continues his nominations. take for example the transportation. he has an ideal choice here to pick a woman, a republican. senator hutchison from texas who really understands the infrastructure challenges of our nation. and i think as a republican can help us raise money in public-private ventures. understanding government can't get the $100 billion needed for our roads that need repair and enhancement. we have to do it like the state of illinois did. city of chicago did. do private-public ventures. but the president did appoint two people who were women to the supreme court. but i do think this is a legitimate point as he continues on. >> hogan, i'm curious about the debt ceiling fight. we know that is looming. it is expected to get nasty. how much do you think the republicans are going to take on the president, take on the democrats? you see what senator harry r
unkind things about gay people, by two men kissing, and-- >> what about chuck hagel. >> chuck hagel apologized. >> megyn: but he got passed for defense secretary and he says some guy was aggressively gay. >> my point is if somebody said i made a mistake in the early '90s, and i don't anymore. he got a raw deal. i don't think he went to the lengths of saying i don't subscribe to this. and substitute the word black for interracial marriage and all of a sudden, they wouldn't. and if you're in support of gay marriage you have to say this this is discriminatory. >> megyn: would the gay rights group say that no christian pastor, no muslim imam, i'm not sure where the jews stand on gay marriage. >> different-- >> and people of faith for a long time had an anti-gay stance. are we going to get to the point if you're a person of faith you cannot speak at a presidential inauguration. >> we're almost there, megyn. you have the world's great religions have, what according political christians, unacceptable positions or policy of positions, kind of getting to the point where christianity is an ea
decide to fight for chuck hagel to be the secretary of defense? why did he decide to fight for jack lew to be secretary of treasury. he didn't fight for susan rice to be the secretary of state. >> that's a good question and i have been stunned to your point and gloria's question about the number of democratic women inside and outside the administration at very high levels that i've heard from today basically saying, you go girl, thank you for writing that column. i think valley jarrett clearly is, if not the most influential, one of the most influential women in the administration. at the same time, there is definitely a sense that this is -- that it's a boy's club, that the president is the head of. and women do feel excluded. >> they did release another picture today. a very different picture showing the staff. let's show our viewers. the picture they released today because it shows a lot of women in that picture the other day in the new york times picture. we saw a whole bunch of guys. >> where the girls are. right there in the oval office. >> of course they drk wolf. the other pictu
hagel and john kerry as part of the president's circle in determining what to do with afghanistan or with the troop levels in afghanistan moving ahead. >> that's right, tamron. and i think that the pressure on the president internally within his own administration to keep those numbers very low will be fairly considerable. last year, we were led to believe that there would be remaining force post-2014 of 10,000 to 15,000. i think today you should probably look at a 3,000 to 6,000 force. but what i thought was interesting about the press conference, tamron, was that while the president described the role of those forces in very narrow terms, continuing the training and doing a counter terrorism operation when needed against al qaeda remnants, what he didn't say was what's the main purpose of having those forces remain in afghanistan? i think it's two fold. one of them is to keep the taliban which will certainly come back in the rural areas and has ready from taking over kabul and so it's sort of a trip wire for that, the way the american forces in korea have been for 50 years to wa
former senator chuck hagel, richard. i've covered him for many years. he was skeptical about the wars in iraq and afghanistan for that matter and if he's confirmed as the next defense secretary, where do you think he personally will come down on keeping a military presence in afghanistan? >> he and i have talked about afghanistan. we've not talked about that particular issue. my hunch is he would be comfortable as are most people in the national security realm, although i won't speak for him, about keeping a residual force. the cost would be relatively small, it would allow to you do some continued training and advising. it would allow to you do limited counterterrorism. it avoids looking like you're pulling out the rug. so in some way it is protects the united states somewhat from the argument that we've quote/unquote abandoned afghanistan although after a decade it's hard to argue that we would be doing so. so the only danger it seems to me is if you have small forces, they often can accomplish a lot and are they there to baby-sit, to use a terrible phrase, a country that's unraveli
cabinet announcements in chuck hagel and just yesterday jack lew and while not a cabinet position, the president nominated john brennan to head the cia. all three posts need to be confirmed when the senate gets back to work. and speaking of approval, the president will kick off his second term seven points more popular than the first-term average flying in the face of history, though it's still early. five of the seven u.s. presidents re-elected since world war ii have been less popular in the second terms. so can the president use early momentum to push the policy agenda? let's spin. guys, i have been saying for a while now i think that his second term he's going the see a lot more pushback from the friends on the left than his foes on the right. for one, he's been re-elected. i think the gop has generally resigned themselves to the fact that they're going to be four more years to obama and they have a little less incentive to hang him for every misstep he has but democrats are incentives to watch him more carefully. one, payment, you know, a number of groups, unions for one, inv
, 15 years ago he opposed, chuck hagel opposed a nominee that was going to serve in the country of luxembourg as an ambassador, the size of a table, and he opposed him for being aggressively gay and had some tough anti-gay statements to make at the time. yes he apologized but apologized two weeks ago when his name was already being considered for secretary of defense, and yet it's okay to go after the pastor, but it's not okay to go after the nominee for secretary of defense, who is going to be making big and small decisions on a daily basis as we implement the complete repeal of don't ask, don't tell. that i think is inconsistent and verging on hypocriticahypocriti. >> just to be clear giglio pulled out on his own. president obama didn't change his mind and say get out. >> ana brings up a good point. we have to include people's evolving views on this. again i go back to what the reverend said 15 or 20 years ago, he has not disavowed. hagel has absolute disavowed what he said, and a lot of gay rights groups have taken him -- >> two weeks ago, maria, a very convenient evolution.
former senator chuck hagel to be his next secretary of the defense, it's widely speculated that a more aggressive drawdown is something that hagel may favor as well. but it's sort of unclear, wolf, what it means for the final number of u.s. troops that will remain in afghanistan. we know that white house officials are talking about somewhere between 0 and 9,000 troops but one of the things that was really interesting, listening to this press conference today. >> we didn't hear the presidents talk about there being no u.s. troops. in fact, the finding of common ground on immunity for u.s. troops and afghan soldiers and who will be in control of overseeing them seem to indicate that they have found some common ground on key sticking points and the take away there is likely there are going to be u.s. troops in afghanistan beyond 2014. >> the only thing they have to work out is how many. it looks like you're right. thanks very much, brianna, for that. >>> the date is now set for president obama's state of the union address. following tradition, the house speaker sent a letter to the presid
of angry head lies. >> the white house is gearing up for a fight with republicans over chuck hagel, president obama's pick for secretary of defense. as well as the fight over that other thing, everything. >> "early start" continues right now. >>> inside the accused aurora shooter's alleged plot. the explosive trap police say he set as a diversion. >>> and too close for comfort. a great white shark seen lurking just off a florida beach. >>> and responding to the backlash. brent musburger's bosses apologizing for his on air comments about a football star's beauty queen girlfriend. good morning and welcome to early start. >> glad you're beauty queen gir. >> i'm john berman. >> i'm zoraida sambolin. we begin with the white house, and the national rifle observation. the nra confirming it will meet with vice president biden. but they don't sound ready to actively participate. putting out a statement that reads, "we are seconding a rep to hear what they have to say." that drew this response from the president's spokesman, jay carney. >> we look forward to hearing from a variety of organiz
kerry for secretary of state comes chuck hagel for defense secretary, and of course john brennan as the cia director earlier this week. coming up, we will hear from the current defense secretary of leon panetta and the chairman of the joint chiefs of staff martin dempsey. we will have live coverage here on c-span. coming up, we will have a look at the cost of college education and student loans and whether college that could be the next bauble that might affect the economy. we will be joined by marian wang and josh michel. that is live at 8:00 p.m. eastern here on c-span. the national debt may be the single biggest threat to the national future according to thomas donahue. this is 35 minutes. >> good morning. happy new year, everybody. i am the president of the u.s. chamber of commerce, and we are pleased that you could join us for the annual state of american business address. before we welcome him to the stage, i would like to say a brief word about my friend and our leader tom donohue. looking back of the past year, the chamber has had victories and a few disappointments durin
intentionally misleading, or he doesn't understand the legislative process. then of course you have chuck hagel. there is controversy on both the left and the right, rather right and the left over that nomination. so this president, it seems like he's pushing the envelope with these nominees. and your producers also pointed out no women. >> been called the band of brothers, a couple of articles have described it that way. maria, what's your take? >> well, i'm not worried about the "controversial nature" of these appointees. i think they will get through. and the white house feels pretty confident that they will get through. but i absolutely agree that the next set of nominees and appointees need to look a lot more like this panel, randi. and -- and i am sure, i am actually sure that it will because clearly i don't know if it was just, you know, the timing of the rollout. let's remember that susan rice was considered for secretary of state. so i don't think we'd be having this conversation if she hadn't run into trouble. certainly, diversity has always been a priority for this president. and his
time with john kerry during the campaign so he picked him. he likes chuck hagel and he picked him. that may be vast oversimplification. margaret carlson made the same point. mary katherine, it would bother me more if i president hadn't done a thorough job thinking this through than whether it was women, minorities white people, whatever they are. >> if charlie rangel thinks it is embarrassing you are really in trouble. as much as i kid about him i appreciate him holding the president to account on this let's be clear, he ran on this to a great extent. his presidency was to prevent an alleged all white-male cabinet which would not have been the case with romney but that was sort of implication. and getting all these folks names. i think there is some truth this is the club that he hangs around in and that is perhaps why you shouldn't have been hard on someone like romney for going out and requesting binders full of women. maybe he should send some over to the white house that might be helpful. go ahead. >> no, i thought that was cute. i thought that was very cute. from my perspecti
sides of the aisle will agree to insufficient numbers to make it pass. >> senator hagel is likely to march 1.med aon can he do anything? [indiscernible] >> i do not know that are is a lot that whoever it is at that time can really do. other than try to be straightforward and open with congress and the american people about what the real impacts would be and not just talking points, but coming out with what the impacts would be. let the people make an informed decision on what is best for the country. that is about the best that any defense can do in any situation. i want to go on. my last slide before we close is to put all of this together. in the next few months, i think it is madness. we're looking at late february and early march, the treasury says that they will be running out of options to avoid reaching the debt ceiling. if congress does nothing to increase the debt ceiling by then, we could be looking at a government default. even if it is not a default on our debt and the treasury says they will prioritize interest on payments, we're still looking at at a default under go
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